Bill and Carole: Post-Divorce BFFs

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I am so excited to be participating in the Carole Lombard Blogathon, the first blogathon I’ve ever taken part in! And my small offering today is going to be about the curious tale of Carole Lombard and William Powell’s relationship and how it evolved through infatuation, marriage, divorce, the best of friends and the heights of professional achievement. I have to issue a warning here – this post is highly illustrated. This is because there are a ridiculous amount of pictures of Bill and Carole looking insanely hot together – I was going to discipline myself to just a couple of favourites but then I thought nah chuck em all in. It would be an injustice not to take this opportunity of including these stunning photos of their friendship!

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In 1930 William Powell was 38 and doing quite nicely professionally. Thanks to that fruity voice and training in the legitimate theatre he’d made a smooth transition to talking pictures, and was top man at Paramount. But on a personal level he’d been separated for many years from his wife and was still living with his parents. (Mind you, Bill was also apparently keeping a shag-pad in the name of ‘Mr Thorne’, which was kitted out with an extensive collection of appalling French photographs.) Bill and his friends Ronald Colman, Richard Barthelmess, Ernest Torrance and Warner Baxter were well known in 1920s Hollywood as being a set of disgraceful bachelors, although they were calming down as they hurtled towards their 40s and certainly weren’t on the same booze n birds fuelled level as David Niven and Errol Flynn down at ‘Cirrhosis by the Sea’.

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#LADS – Bill, Dick Barthelmess and Ronnie Colman, Catalina Island, 1926
However, when Bill went travelling round Europe with Ronnie and Ernest in 1930 he noted that:

“I was absolutely surrounded by playboys and playgirls of the play world… Everyone around me seemed to be having a most glorious time… yet I was, if possible, even more lonely than I had been at home.”

Carole Lombard was 21, also living with her mum, but completely her own woman. ‘Carole Lombard’ was the professional name she chose in 1925 when she was just 15 as Jane Peters was too dull (“I think that ‘e’ made the whole fuckin’ difference…”)

After her devastating car crash when she was 17, Carole took the pragmatic step of signing up with Mack Sennett as a Bathing Beauty to restart her career.

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Mack Sennett’s ‘A Girl from Nowhere’ 1928
When Carole ended up at Paramount after Pathé went bust she hadn’t found her ‘voice’ in pictures and was still in the process of cultivating a strong on screen persona.

Man of the World is a potboiler melodrama about a blackmailer who falls in love with one of his marks. The plan was for a professional discussion prior to the start of filming. William Powell was a successful leading man who had no time for dippy young actresses. Carole Lombard was a young independent woman determined to succeed on her own merits and who’s blunt language demonstrated she wasn’t taking shit from anyone. As neither party suffered fools gladly it was thought best they meet beforehand and discuss the requirements for the picture. However!

“The day I met Carole I had the same feeling as a sixteen year old boy on his first date. I was embarrassed and fidgety. I worried over whether or not I was making a good impression on her. It just so happened that immediately after our introduction,which took place at the studio, we were left alone to talk over the picture we were about to do together. But we didn’t talk about the picture. We talked about men and women and things that happened to them and ourselves.”

The talk carried on into a long dinner date and that was that! During the filming of Man of the World they were described as being ‘torridly fascinated with each other’ and their chemistry radiates through the screen, cutting through a fairly tedious picture, with a leaden script, plodding direction and a dull ending.

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Phew!
The fascination continued after the picture wrapped. They had a very similar sense of humour – William Powell was well known for being a wind up merchant and he thought Carole’s filthy jokes and potty mouth were hilarious, so Carole got stuck into some serious banter with her new chap, giving him the nickname ‘Junior’.

In the meantime and in order to capitalise on their romance, Paramount put them together in another picture, ‘Ladies Man’, another potboiler that can be filed under ‘strictly for completists’, although the couple were able to project strong emotions in the film:

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Ooh I say!
Both parties were in hugely different places in their lives though. Carole came crashing into Bill’s neat and tidy existence as a humongous party animal, owning the dance floor at the Cocoanut Grove most weekends, and both were therefore very definite about how they saw life panning out for them. Bill said that Carole was the frankest girl he’d ever met. Carole said that her boyfriend,

“…will strangle me – or at least want to. He likes order and dignity… I can’t live that way. I always do whatever occurs to me at the moment…”

Bill was throwing caution to the wind though, working his smooth patter on Carole to the max, because during their first date he had a revelation:

“Suddenly, in the midst of this talk with the most beautiful girl I had ever known, a thought came to me: Someday I am going to ask this girl to marry me!”

But for that to happen both parties would have to wind their necks in quite substantially – Bill wanted Carole to jack in her career and there was no chance of that and Carole wanted to hit the nightspots and there was no chance of Bill doing that.

“I think I asked Carole to marry me on average of every half hour. At first she was a bit dubious… so many professional marriages fail to work out… I had experienced one failure in matrimony previously, and Carole was just starting out on a career that was tremendously important to her.”

So… they tried to compromise…

Mr William Powell and Mrs Jane Peters Powell!
Bill and Carole married on 26 June 1931. As far as he was concerned:

“Freedom is one of the great disillusions of the world… I’ve had a great many years of the ‘coveted freedom’… I think I’m getting the most wonderful girl in the world. Freedom? I’d trade every bit of it just for a few hours with Carole.”

And Bill was so nervous he forgot which finger to put the ring on! With that, the Powells went off to Hawaii for two weeks of sun and fun and relaxation, except that it wasn’t because Carole ended up with the flu…

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Judging by the enormous grin on Carole’s face, I dread to think what kind of dreadful expletive she’s just uttered! No wonder Bill looks so pleased!
And so the Powells tried to settle into their new life together and their new home – Bill trying his best to make his wife happy by trying to support her career and Carole trying her best to make her husband happy by trying to be the perfect housewife. Carole explained to Garson Kanin years later:

“You know how it is. You always try to get in solid with the son of a bitch by playing him at his game…

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“…Now with Philo it was different. Because after all, Philo. It was legitimate. We were married. (Philo was her name for William Powell because he had once played the detective Philo Vance.)

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“…With him, it was wife stuff. That’s where I learned how to put a house together, and have everything supplied. And how to take care of his clothes. And what had to be dry cleaned and what not…

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“…I mean, I was the best fuckin’ wife you ever saw. I mean a ladylike wife. Because that’s how Philo wanted it.”

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These two need to stop being so goddamn hot

Interestingly it was during this time that Carole appeared in ‘No Man Of Her Own’, a film that has become a legend amongst Lombard and Clark Gable fans due to the many ‘hot love scenes’ she shared with Gable – despite the fact that she was still in love with Bill and Gable was married to Ria Langham but actually in love with Elizabeth Allan. 

‘So and so kinda hot for you today, eh mama?’

‘No Man Of Her Own’ may have been one of the catalysts for the strengthening of the Production Code due to those same ‘hot love scenes’ – the film attracted the wrath of Father Daniel Lord who asked how William Powell could countenance his wife appearing in ‘filthy movies’ – hilariously, because Bill was at the same time appearing in ‘Lawyer Man’, where he blow jobs a cigar.

*ahem*

After two years of marriage Bill and Carole called it a draw. Although it was done with best intentions their attempts to give the other what they wanted were stifling. 

Adela St John Rogers wrote soon after Carole’s death:

“…Carole moved fast and saved much. Once she saw that there were deep and fundamental differences between herself and Bill as husband and wife which would degenerate into quarrels, into ugliness, she didn’t wait for any of the messy cruel things which are called grounds for divorce to happen. She used the surgeon’s knife –- swiftly -– cleanly –- with decision.

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January 1933. Awks.
“…Weeping as though her heart would break, she put her arms around him and said goodbye to him as a husband. But she saved him as the best friend any woman ever had.”

Carole headed off to Nevada for the proceedings – Bill didn’t contest the petition and Carole didn’t want any money from him. In fact the proceedings contained evidence that this was not going to be your usual unpleasant Hollywood split, such as the pair’s in jokes – for example Carole cites William Powell’s constant ‘use of foul language’ as one reason for the dissolution of the marriage, causing ironic laughter in the courtroom.

“…[Carole] breezed into town from Reno, with the divorce papers in her bag and the loveliest tan…

…’Hello Bill,’ said Carole over her mother’s phone. ‘Baby’s back.’

‘Darling,’ exclaimed Mr Powell, looking right smart in a snappy dressing robe. ‘Darling, I’ve missed you so. Not a good laugh in weeks. Come right on over, I’ll start icing the champagne.'”

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Two weeks after their divorce…
Carole spelled it out:

“I admire him as an actor and as a man. I know that we are vital to each other. We have a mental balance founded on respect. We meet on a friendly basis, and when you speak of friendship after marriage, know that it is possible only when there has been no quarrelling. Respect dies with quarrelling and fighting… I think it is fine when two persons who have separated can meet as friends and go out together with no feeling of bitterness.”

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One month after the divorce…
“I must like the man, or I wouldn’t have married him in the first place…”

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Yep, they’re still divorced!
Maybe once released from the dull realities of married life the pair got their mojo back for a bit, who knows? It’s not unusual. Regardless, both eventually moved on to new partners, most notably relationships with Russ Columbo and Jean Harlow. 


Carole then went on to marry Clark Gable in 1939 and Bill married Diana Lewis in 1940.

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Well one of them ended up with Clark Gable
1936 was a professional triumph for William Powell – he appeared in five of the biggest and most critically applauded movies of the year, Libeled Lady, The Great Ziegfeld, After The Thin Man, The Ex Mrs Bradford and arguably the greatest screwball comedy ever made, My Man Godfrey.

William Powell made it clear that he would only participate in the production if Carole Lombard played the part of Irene. Bill saw reversed parallels between how they’d got together with Irene’s hot pursuit of Godfrey and his anointing as Irene’s ‘protegé’.

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Certainly I’m not the only one who’s surmised that Powell and Lombard are talking to each other through their characters in this sweetly resonant scene:

Bill’s mentor during his early years on the stage, Leo Ditrichstein, had taught Bill to use his own personal experiences to motivate his performances, advice that he passed on to Carole. Allied to this director Gregory La Cava had the cast improvise the scenes – an outline script was brought to the set everyday and the cast would brainstorm the scene before filming. Bill was apparently nervous about this, but for Carole it was a throwback to her freewheeling Mack Sennett days. And it’s this that makes the dishwashing scene so funny but also poignant – when Godfrey tells Irene he’ll ring her occasionally and they’ll have long chats and lots of fun, apparently that was the basis for Bill and Carole’s post-divorce friendship!

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My Man Godfrey is still fresh as a daisy and between the pixies, gorillas and pomeranians still dishes out massive laughs – not bad for a movie that’s 80 years old! When Bill decided to relent and support Carole’s career prior to their marriage, he told her:

“…I want you to be the biggest star in the business. I will help you to be the biggest.”

Whether it was conscious or not, Bill’s lobbying for Carole to get the part lived up to his earlier promise, and then some. 

My Man Godfrey is without a doubt the tribute and testament to Bill and Carole’s friendship.

If 1936 was William Powell’s greatest year, 1937 and 1938 were marked by the sort of tragedy where you really do need true friends to get you through.

Carole had suffered the tragic accidental death of her partner Russ Columbo in 1935, but Carole and Clark Gable were completely unprepared for what happened to their dearest friend Jean Harlow. 


William Powell was the love of Jean Harlow’s life, but Bill was ambivalent about Jean throughout their relationship, stringing her along for three years without the marriage Jean longed for. After witnessing her awful death from kidney failure at the age of 26, Bill was filled with remorse, but like all true friends Carole dished out the hard truths, saying to her friend Kay Mulvey:

“I shall always consider Bill a friend, but even if I searched my mind from end to end I would not be able to understand why he did what he did to Jean.”

Bill struggled emotionally after Jean Harlow’s death, and Carole comforted him at the funeral. After escaping to Ronnie Colman’s yacht for a while he then collapsed during the filming of Double Wedding and had to take further time off. But then to compound matters, in 1938 Bill was diagnosed with colon cancer and successfully submitted to an early form of radiation therapy. 

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Recording the Lux Radio Theater version of My Man Godfrey in 1938. Bill looks very frail here as he recovers from cancer
Carole rushed to support him, joining a very close group of friends who nursed him during his illness and treatment.


On the evening of 16 January 1942 William and Diana Powell were telephoned and informed that Carole was on board a plane which had crashed into mountains near Las Vegas. Bill and Mousie waited up all night for news about their friend. Finally they received confirmation that Carole had died in the disaster.

Her best friend for over 10 years – William Powell was devastated.

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At Ciro’s, 1940
Carole Lombard was a very loved person – all my source material points to this simple fact, and it’s not the usual gushing Hollywood claptrap. Bill and Carole’s marriage and subsequent friendship was seen as a bit of an oddity not just because of the age gap but also due to differences in personality and temperament. While Bill was in actuality a somewhat shy and reserved individual, prone to episodes of introspection, Carole Lombard was whip smart, funny as hell, kind, considered and considerate, and that’s before we consider what an amazing looking woman she was, so of course William Powell was crazy about her – everybody who was lucky enough to know Carole was crazy about her. 


Carole was a highly unique individual who ploughed her own furrow in life, and therefore her ‘stardom’ springs from a much deeper well than just being a glamorous movie star and why for us, her fans, her legend continues to resonate so strongly 75 years after her loss.

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This post is part of the Carole Lombard: The Profane Angel Blogathon hosted by In the Good Old Days of Classic Hollywood and Phyllis Loves Classic Movies. All the entries are below – I highly recommend you give them a read: 

https://crystalkalyana.wordpress.com/


References/Recommended Reading:

Carole Lombard: Twentieth Century Star – Michelle Morgan

William Powell: The Life and Films – Roger Bryant

Hollywood – Garson Kanin

Platinum Girl: The Life and Legends of Jean Harlow – Eve Golden

Photoplay Magazine, September 1931

Motion Picture Magazine, December 1931

http://carole-and-co.livejournal.com/174086.html

http://carole-and-co.livejournal.com/174533.html

http://carole-and-co.livejournal.com/31676.html

http://carole-and-co.livejournal.com/633673.html

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2385-chef-du-cinema-my-man-godfrey

http://www.normpowers.com/Norm_Powers/Carole_Lombard.html

http://www.playgroundtothestars.com/2013/11/william-powell-and-carole-lombard-dancing-at-ciros/

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23 thoughts on “Bill and Carole: Post-Divorce BFFs

    1. Ah bless you! Thank you for reading and liking! Yes Carole showed an astonishing level of maturity for such a young person and that allowed their relationship to develop into something much better. Now that’s Class with a capital C. I have to thank Vincent Paterno at the Carole & Co blog, it was an invaluable resource, no wonder he got a well deserved acknowledgment in Michelle Morgan’s book on Carole!

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  1. Thank you so much for the compliment about Carole & Co., and I am thrilled you used four entries from my site as background material. An excellent entry on the relationship between my all-time favorite actress and actor. From the 1940 photo, I assume Carole and Diana met a few times, especially while seeing their spouses on the Metro lot in Culver City.

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    1. Thank you very much for your kind words – I couldn’t have done it without you! My aim is for this site to be a resource of similar depth. Yes I would also assume Carole and Diana must’ve encountered each other at some point and it would be interesting to know to what extent. Bill and Diana’s relationship is also intriguing for various reasons. Mind you Bill’s relationships with women generally are intriguing, whether platonic or otherwise!

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      1. And their styles would have complemented each other’s perfectly. Alas, studio and gender politics (aside from short subjects starring Thelma Todd and Zasu Pitts or Patsy Kelly, women rarely teamed for comedy) prevented it from happening.

        Fortunately, one’s allowed to dream, so in a “recasting” blogathon of the silent era, I allied Lombard and Loy in a 1928 version of the ’87 Shelley Long-Bette Midler vehicle “Outrageous Fortune” (http://carole-and-co.livejournal.com/645254.html). And in this entry, the hereafter Carole and Myrna discuss a newly-discovered street (http://carole-and-co.livejournal.com/378865.html).

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      2. LOL I love Carole’s dispatches from the afterlife – especially when she took down that scurrilous writer in court!

        Yes imagine what could’ve been achieved in Hollywood without those archaic boundaries around gender and race (imagine what could be achieved now…) That now makes me wonder what modern film would suit Bill’s talents – the Shawshank Redemption would be interesting…

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  2. One can never have too many photos of Carole and Bill 😉 Some of these I haven’t even seen before!!! Thank you for all of your in-depth research for this post. Carole and Bill are a perfect example of how divorced couples should be.

    I’m very excited to see how this site develops as I LOVE William Powell (I watched almost all of his talkies in a span of two years).

    Thanks so much for participating in the Blogathon!! Sorry I took so long to comment. It’s been a crazy week 🙂

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    1. Heh heh! No kidding! They’re too gorgeous to miss any out! Bless you, many thanks for the big up, I had a lot of fun putting this piece together – it keeps me out of trouble 😉👍And you’re always guaranteed fun when Bill and Carole are involved! Johnny Depp and Amber Heard should take note – ironic considering Depp was one of the instigators behind the mooted Thin Man remake *shudders*

      I’ve nearly got through what’s left of Bill’s silent output, so watch this space for my thoughts on that. Then it’s all the talkies – can’t wait!!!

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  3. Thanks so much for participating in the blogathon with such a wonderfully illustrated and informative post. I love the photos you chose. They capture all the happy moments they spent together. Carole and William have always been one of my favorite couples. Anyway I’m sorry for commenting late. I’ve been away with family.

    I would also like to invite you to participate in my next blogathon. The link is below with more details.

    https://crystalkalyana.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/announcing-the-second-annual-bette-davis-blogathon/

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    1. Oh no bother, many thanks for your kind words and for hosting a great blogathon! I had such fun working on it 😃

      Many thanks for the invite to Bette Davis’ blogathon – I’m going to leave that til next year if that’s ok. I want to do Fashions of 1934, but for this year I want to concentrate as far as possible on Bill’s silent output 😃👍

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    I just stumbled on your site and am so happy to find it. I adore William Powell. He was a fascinating man. His and Carole’s relationship is so interesting. They were a beautiful couple and I love how much they meant to each other. My favorite obscure bit about them is from the songwriter who walked in on them rolling around on their living room floor, calling Carole his playful wife. I think the 1940 picture of them dancing is so beautifully sweet. They were both happily married, but they look so comfortable and loving. I agree that Bill’s relationships were interesting. He was known to be an extremely thoughtful person. Ed Sullivan marveled at his gallantry and special consideration towards older women. He really seems to be as nice of a guy and gentleman as stated over and over. I look forward to your thoughts on his silent work. I’ve seen quite a few of his surviving silent works and he is wonderful in them. Usually billed as fourth or fifth, the reviews show him as a standout in most of them. He was always looked forward to for being the villain of a film. Once described as a suave prince of darkness. Again, wonderful site for a very worthy man.

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    1. Ahhhh bless you and thank you so much! Am glad you like the blog, believe me it’s no hardship spending my time gawping at Bill 💕😍💕

      That’s some fantastic anecdotes you’ve got there as well – interesting what Ed Sullivan had to say. My understanding is that David Stenn, Jean Harlow’s biographer, gives Powell a real beating for how he treat Jean, but generally he seems to have been a very courtly, traditional kind of geezer in his dealings with women. He certainly seemed to get on well with Jean’s mother, in the circumstances.

      Hope you’ll enjoy what’s to come – I’m doing a post for Silver Screenings Villains Blogathon on William Powell’s Silent Villains so watch out for that!

      Martinis all round! 🍸🍸🍸👌👍

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        I agree, it is no hardship spending time looking into William Powell. I’ve found so many interesting things on him. He was a very interesting character. Regarding David Stenn’s book on Jean Harlow, I have not read it, but I also heard Bill didn’t seem to get a fair portrayal. I think that his hesitance to marry her and her belief that it wouldn’t happen does not make him a bad person. By many accounts he seemed to be an old fashioned, gallant gentleman, but seemed to be very physically affectionate and sweet. Jean apparently loved sitting on his lap. Silent star Anita Page said she believed that if Bill had had any idea of what was to come, he would have married Jean in a minute. Cheers!

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      2. I’m just going to have to bite the bullet and buy the book – on Amazon and eBay it’s around £20 – £30 now 😳 I think it’ll be a good investment though, David Stenn is an excellent writer and researcher. I don’t want to get too fan girly about Bill ysee and ride to his rescue whenever someone has a negative view of him – I have to allow that’s he’s a normal human being who was entitled to make mistakes without judgement 80 years later!!! And marrying Jean wouldn’t have saved her life sadly. Such a tragic shame – in so many ways she was perfect for him, a quiet homebody.

        Thanks for your kind words about the site 😊 I’m looking forward to your future comments 😃👍

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